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The Future of Running Podcast

The Future of Running Is You: 10 Lessons from Rob Simmelkjaer

CEO, New York Road Runners · TCS New York City Marathon · Former ESPN & NBC Sports · Founder, East 89th Street Productions

By Phil Dumontet, CEO, Laurel Innovations · 50,000+ finishers annually · 200,000 kids in Rising New York Road Runners

I sat down with Rob Simmelkjaer — CEO of New York Road Runners, the nonprofit behind the TCS New York City Marathon, over 60 annual races, and one of the most powerful running communities in the world. Rob came to this role from ESPN and NBC Sports, where he anchored three Olympic broadcasts. He didn't just bring a new business model to NYRR. He brought a storyteller's eye — and the conviction that running has better stories than any other sport on earth. Here are the 10 lessons that stayed with me most.

01

Storytelling

You have 50,000 Hollywood feature films on your start line — start telling them

Rob came from a world of professional sports media — and his first observation when he arrived at NYRR was that they were sitting on one of the greatest story repositories in all of sport. The NBA has four teams in the playoffs and a handful of highly paid athletes with interesting stories. NYRR has 50,000 people at the starting line of one marathon alone — and every single one of them is there for a reason that would be genuinely fascinating to understand.

"The vast, vast majority of our runners are making no money to be there. So the question is always: why? Why are they doing this? Why are they putting themselves through the training and the challenge? Each and every one of them has a motivation that is fundamentally fascinating. Some percentage of those stories are like Hollywood feature films."

That insight led directly to the creation of the Final Finishers documentary, East 89th Street Productions, and the At the Pace podcast. It all starts from the same place: the stories are already there. Your job is to find them and tell them.

Ask "why do you run?" at registration. Then follow up with one runner's story per race. An iPhone and a finish line is all you need to start.
02

Moment & Opportunity

Running has never been more in the social conversation — don't miss the window

Rob walked into NYRR in late 2022 — right at the early stages of the biggest running boom in a generation. He didn't fully see it coming. Looking back, he can trace it to the pandemic, to the run club explosion, to the social transformation of a sport that had been largely solo. In 2019, run clubs gathering at bar corners in New York City were not a thing. Now they're everywhere.

"Running has never been more in the social conversation than it is right now. How do we make sure we as an organization are taking advantage of that moment in time to really maximize our impact? We can't miss this window."

His message to his senior leadership team: seize this moment deliberately. The boom won't last forever. Use it to build something that outlasts the tailwind.

Identify the one initiative you've been putting off that the current running boom makes possible. This year is the right time.
03

Mental Health

"Free therapy" — that's the number one answer to why do you run

Rob has made mental health a cornerstone of NYRR's identity — not as a PR strategy, but as a genuine reflection of what running actually is for most people. When he asks runners why they run, the overwhelming answer has nothing to do with pace or performance. It's about how it makes them feel. Psychologically. Mentally. Emotionally.

"If this was Family Feud, the number one answer to 'why do you run?' is free therapy. And it makes sense. There's never been anything like running for me in terms of clearing my mind, pressing the reset button, helping me feel like anything's possible. Win the morning, win the day."

The NYRR created the Mindful 5K — a race explicitly centered around mental health and the connection between running and psychological wellbeing. When middle school runners showed up to race at that event, Rob described it as one of his most meaningful moments in the role.

How is mental health reflected in your race communications and brand story? If it isn't, it should be — because it's why most of your runners are there.
04

Inclusivity

The biggest overlooked barrier isn't cost — it's the belief that you're not a runner

When asked what barrier even the most well-intentioned races miss, Rob gave an answer I hadn't heard framed quite this way before. It's not the entry fee. It's the mental model. For millions of people, the idea of running a race — even a 10K — is as realistic as going to the moon. It simply doesn't occur to them as something they would do.

"People look in the mirror and they're like, that's not a runner. But there's no reason that has to be the case. We give the same medal to the runner who finishes in 2:45 as the one who finishes in 8:45. What's the difference? No difference. It's the same medal."

The path in isn't always obvious. Not everyone grew up in a running family. Not everyone knows how to start. The knowledge of how to begin — how to walk-run your way to a 5K, what shoes to buy, how far to go the first time — is genuinely unknown to a huge segment of potential runners.

Design one piece of content for the person who has never considered running a race and genuinely doesn't know how to start. Meet them at the very beginning of the path.
05

Youth

Kids can only become what they have seen — give them something to see

NYRR has 200,000 kids in their Rising New York Road Runners program. Rob wants to grow that. He wants kids racing past the marathon finish line in Central Park — experiencing the same moment the elites experience, seeing what's possible, filing it away. Mo Farah ran the London Mini Marathon as a child. Rob wants a kid to cross the NYRR kids kickoff finish line and one day win the marathon.

"Kids always have the ability only to become what they have seen. That's a fundamental part of life — you can't really be it if you've never been able to see it. That's really what we want to do: give kids the opportunity to see the thing that they might want to be someday."
Create at least one moment in your event where kids are running the same course, finishing on the same line, and experiencing what it feels like to be a runner. Plant that seed early.
06

Sustainability

Team for Climate: use your demand for good — and beat 2040 by a lot

When Rob joined NYRR, the organization had pledged to be net zero by 2040. His reaction: that's way too far out. Let's go faster. The result was Team for Climate — an exclusive entry pathway into the NYC Marathon and select other NYRR races where runners commit to raising funds to offset the carbon footprint of the event. Not just NYRR's operational emissions, but the carbon of every runner who flies in from around the world.

It sold out in minutes. The second year class is full. It's simultaneously a sustainability program, a charity fundraiser, a community-building tool, and an access mechanism — all from the same initiative.

"We don't want to be improving people's lives through running while damaging the planet with the other hand. Every race should be thinking about how they can be as sustainable as they can be."
Identify the single highest-impact sustainability lever you have. Don't try to solve everything — but use your demand and your platform to make that one thing go further than you think is possible.
07

Content Strategy

The spectator problem isn't a broadcast problem — it's a storytelling problem

Rob spent eight years at NBC Sports and anchored three Olympic broadcasts. He knows exactly what makes people tune in. And his diagnosis of running's spectator problem is precise: it's not that the sport is boring to watch. It's that people don't feel invested in the runners they're watching. And the way you fix that is stories.

"The secret to the success of the Olympic broadcast was the stories we told about these athletes. You care so much more about their performance when you know what brought them there and what obstacles they overcame. The really interesting stories in our sport live with the everyday athletes — not the elites."

Martinez Evans — featured in the Final Finishers documentary — went to a doctor who told him he was obese and living on borrowed time. Martinez told that doctor he'd run a marathon. The doctor laughed in his face. Less than 18 months later, Martinez crossed a marathon finish line. That story is more compelling than any elite performance. We just haven't been telling it at scale.

Before your next race, find three runners with stories like that. Document them. Your broadcast — even on social media — should be as much about them as about who wins.
08

Community

Spectators don't underestimate how much impact they can have on a runner

Rob ran Berlin last September after 11 years away from marathons. He got walking pneumonia three weeks before the race, cramped up badly in the final miles, and nearly DNF'd. He made it to the finish — and broke his PR from 11 years earlier — because two people pulled him through. His pacer, Roberto. And a stranger in the crowd who recognized him and just started cheering him forward.

"Spectators should not underestimate how much impact they can have for the runners. Really. When you see someone struggling, you really can change their day by giving them that support they need. It is easier to give up when you're alone."

He applied the same lesson to the organic phenomenon at the 2025 Boston Marathon — runners who finished hours earlier coming back to Boylston Street to cheer the final finishers. Nobody organized it. Nobody promoted it. The community just knew.

Design your race communications to remind spectators — explicitly — that their presence can change someone's race. They need to hear that their cheering matters.
09

Vision

Build a home for running in your city — and create a global streaming platform for the sport

Rob dropped two future-facing ideas in this conversation that I keep returning to. The first: NYRR wants a real home for running in New York — not just the RUN Center for bib pickup, but a physical space where people come to run, to connect, to train, year-round. More tracks, more parks, more places where the community gathers around the act of running itself.

The second: the hot take. As a board member of the Abbott World Marathon Majors, Rob sees an opportunity to create a global streaming platform — a destination where marathon content, storytelling, travel, and inspiration all live together, for a sport that is genuinely global but lacks a global media home.

Where does your running community gather outside of race day? If the answer is nowhere, that's the most important infrastructure gap you could fill.
10

Resilience

If someone's run a marathon, bet on that person to do anything

Rob's most lasting thought from this conversation wasn't about strategy or scale. It was about what completing a marathon actually means — not as a fitness achievement, but as a character signal. He made the case simply and directly.

"Give me two people I've never met and a challenge. You tell me one of them has run a marathon and I don't know anything else about them — I'm betting on that one. Because I know they have the fortitude to keep going. In so many things in life, that's really what it takes. You're going to hit a wall or two or five. You just keep going."

That belief — that running builds the character that transfers to everything else — is ultimately why NYRR exists. Not to put on races. To build people.

When you tell the story of your race, are you telling the story of the finish line — or the story of what crossing it means for the rest of someone's life? The second story is always more powerful.

"The future of running is you."

Rob's closing words — directed straight at whoever is listening. You're not just a participant in this sport. You're the one who decides what it becomes. Whoever you bring, whoever you inspire — that's the future.